Gabriel SCOTT and Elizabeth MOUEL of Cambridgeshire, England

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As we have found new information on the family of our relative Joseph Scott, this post will be a continuation of Joseph and Mary Scott who came to Lockport, NY with their children. They arrived December 13, 1831.  They came from Welney, Cambridgeshire, England.

On the Welney Website we find that Welney was part of the Parish of Upwell.  It was partly in the County of Norfolk and partly in Cambridgeshire.  For many years, the part in Cambridgeshire was actually in the County of The Isle of Ely.

The Parish of Welney covers 5080 acres.  The land is flat and low lying and the soil is mostly very fertile black peat with some soil.  It is part of the area known as the Fenlands.  It was once swampy with small islands of habitation, but now drained by a complex system of ditches, dykes and rivers.

Map of Welney from the Welney Website

Joseph Scott of Lockport, NY was the son of Gabriel Scott III and Elizabeth Mouel.
Gabriel Scott III was christened December 31, 1767 in Welney.  His parents were Gabriel II and Ann Scott.  We do not know Ann's maiden name.

On December 12, 1787 Gabriel III married Elizabeth Mouel in the Parish of Downham Market, County of Norfolk.  Elizabeth was from Downham.  Gabriel was listed as a farmer on this record.  He was considered a minor at age 20.  As his father was deceased, his mother, Ann Scott, also signed the marriage certificate.   Elizabeth was not a minor so her parents did not sign and, thus, we do not know her parents.  We did find a brother named Thomas Mouel.  Thomas married Ann Scott in Welney on January 16, 1788.  We cannot prove that Ann Scott was a relative of our Gabriel Scott.

We found six children born to Gabriel and Elizabeth Scott.  They were Elizabeth, Susanna, Gabriel, Joseph (our ancestor), Mary Ann and Harriet.

Signatures on Marriage Registry, 1787

Joseph SCOTT (1793-1866) and Mary CLIMENSON (1798-?)

Edna OTWELL > Mary CHARNOCK-OTWELL > Eliza SCOTT-CHARNOCK> mother Mary CLIMENSON-SCOTT> Joseph CLIMENSON and Alice PARLET (Alice's mother listed as Mary EMBLIN)

Eliza SCOTT-CHARNOCK> father Joseph SCOTT>Gabriel SCOTT and Elizabeth MOUEL

January 2020 Update:

Since we first posted Joseph and Mary Scott in February 2017, we have found quite a bit of information on them.  This was successful as we found their son, Gabriel Scott, in Welney Parish, Norfolk and Isle of Ely County, England with the baptism of his daughter, Isabella Mary, on March 19, 1857.  Gabriel listed his "Abode" as Lockport, Niagara County, US.  We knew that Lockport, New York was where Joseph and Mary Scott lived after their immigration to the United States.

Welney was formerly in both Cambridgeshire and Norfolk Counties and was part of the Parish of Upwell.  Welney was a vast marshland in the middle of the Fenlands of England.  It is here that we have found the Scott and Climenson families.

Joseph Scott was born in 1793 in Welney, Norfolk, England.  He was baptized on May 26, 1793.  His parents were Gabriel Scott and Elizabeth Mouel.

On December 13, 1831 he immigrated from London, England to New York with his wife, Mary, and their children.  They arrived on the ship "Florida".  Joseph was listed as a farmer. Joseph and Mary had eight children.  They included Joseph, Maria, Gabriel, William, Mary, Alice, Elizabeth and John.  John was born in New York.  The other children were on the ship's manifest as born in England.

In July 1850, Joseph appeared on the US Census.  He was living in Lockport, NY and was a clerk.  We, also, found Joseph on the NYS 1855 Census.  He was a farmer.  On the 1860 US Census, Joseph was a farmer living with his son, Gabriel and Gabriel's family in Lockport, NY.  The NYS 1865 Census listed Joseph as a widow and now retired.  He was still living with his son, Gabriel.

Joseph Scott died August 24, 1866 in Lockport, NY.  He was 73-years old.  He was buried in Grace Church Burying Ground.  The cemetery was moved in the late 1920's to Glenwood Cemetery.

NOTE:  We have found additional information on the Scott family of Welney.  We will update our blog to include these ancestors.

Mary Climenson was christened in Welney, Norfolk, England on June 17, 1798.  She was the daughter of Joseph Climenson and Alice Parlet.  Many records found record Climenson or Clemenson as their last name.  However, Joseph signed "Climenson" on the marriage record of Joseph Scott and his daughter, Mary Climenson.

Joseph Climenson was a farmer and a large land owner.  We do not know his parents' names or if he was originally from the Welney area.  He married Alice Parlet on September 23, 1792 in Welney, Norfolk, England.  On this marriage record Mary EMBLIN signed as the natural mother and guardian of Alice Parlet.  We do not know if Emblin was her maiden name or a husband's name.  We cannot find Alice's father's name.

Joseph and Alice Climenson had at least eight children.  They included William, John, Joseph (died at one month old), Mary, Joseph, James, Elizabeth and Thomas.  They were all born in the Welney, Upwell area of Norfolk, England.

We are descended from Mary Climenson.  She married Joseph Scott on September 16, 1815 in Outwell, Norfolk, England.  Joseph and Mary Scott had eight children.  They included Joseph, Maria, Gabriel, William, Mary Alice, Elizabeth and John.  The first seven children were born in the Cambridge, Norfolk area.  Joseph and Mary Scott and their seven children arrived in New York on December 13, 1831 from London, England on the ship Florida.  They settled in Lockport, New York and that is where their son, John, was born.

We did not find Mary on any census reports.  Her last child was born in 1834.  Apparently, she died between 1834 and the 1850 census report.

Of interest in the documents found was Mary Climenson Scott's brother, William Climenson, married Mary Ann Scott, the sister of her husband, Joseph on August 23, 1815.  The witnesses were Mary Climenson and Joseph Scott.

Also, in the Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts marriage record of Joseph Climenson and Alice Parlet, Gabriel Scott is listed as the witness.  Apparently, the Scott and Climenson families were friends who became family.

Visit Joseph Scott's on-line memorial:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=109976066